Comments on: “Thinking in Systems” book inspires online course

By: Christiaan McComb

Christiaan McComb — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:14:39 +0000

Plagiariser Copies Copyright Material Calls Her Own

By: Christiaan McComb

Christiaan McComb — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:14:39 +0000

Plagiariser Copies Copyright Material Calls Her Own

By: Christiaan McComb

Christiaan McComb — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:18:46 +0000

Hi,

My name is Christiaan McComb. I am a lecturer from Newcastle University in Australia. I was interested to see your course, which is developed from the text above. I am thinking about developing a "coaching" course based on a text from a local publisher. The course would be a private one, and not associated with my University in anyway.

I was interested to know if you came across any Intellectual Property/Copyright issues when developing your course? Did you have to get permission from the publisher first? Any advice would be helpful.

Regards
Christiaan

By: Mike Kelly

Mike Kelly — Fri, 29 May 2009 07:35:06 +0000

My interest in systems thinking is primarily applications rather than technical aspects. I work with company efforts in marketing and more broadly in influencing markets and being influenced by them. There are many systems thinking opportunities out there with huge implications for making organizations more effective and life better for millions of people. After many years in systems I found two uses for this book: for things I thought I knew, it made things much clearer, elegantly so. And for things I didnt know, it brought about a much needed deep insight just as elegantly. I’ve told three others to buy and read it, and highly recommend it to business systems people. Thanks to iSee for bringing it to my attention.

By: Jeremy Merritt

Jeremy Merritt — Tue, 05 May 2009 13:55:02 +0000

@Pooja Diddee
Hi Pooja. We make the online courses available after a live course ends. We record each session and you can download the videos and presentation materials. See some examples of past courses here: http://www.iseesystems.com/store/Training/OnlineCourses.aspx

By: Pooja Diddee

Pooja Diddee — Tue, 05 May 2009 04:27:13 +0000

hi..
it was great to see a site mention an online course, with discussions on Syatems Thinking…but i was disheartened as i discovered it a bit late…will the course start all over again, sometime soon?

will appreciate a quick response
pooja

By: Thinking in Systems Online Course « World is Green

Thinking in Systems Online Course « World is Green — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:34:42 +0000

[...] by Donella Meadows and Jeremy from ISEE Systems informs me through this comment that they have developed a course based on the book for a sustainability strategy. It is a 4 session web based seminar costing USD [...]

By: Joanne Egner

Joanne Egner — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:30:26 +0000

@Christiaan McComb
Hi Christiaan,

We haven’t come across any intellectual property issues but also haven’t been too concerned since the course is being offered in collaboration with the Sustainability Institute. Diana Wright, one of the course instructors, is also the editor of the book. I did contact the publisher, Chelsea Green, so that we could offer the book for resale and have been sharing information with them about the course. We’ve also been hearing from a number of our University customers that “Thinking in Systems” has become required reading for their courses.

Hope this helps,
Joanne

By: Stephen Haines

Stephen Haines — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 02:39:58 +0000

My website was not listed so here it is: http://www.SystemsThinkingPress.com. Check it out.

By: Stephen Haines

Stephen Haines — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 02:38:56 +0000

Hi Folks, Just so there is integrity in these discussions on Systems Thinking, Systems Dynamics is a great APPLICATION of Systems Thinking but the clear FOUNDER is Ludwig VonBertalanffy. If you go to my website, there are over 400 products on both the Theory, Research and tons of OTHER APPLICATIONS OF SYSTEMS THINKING beyond Systems Dynamics. Check out the FREE ARTICLE there on ST: THe Winning Formula to reveal the truth that is missing form this course.

By: Christiaan McComb

Christiaan McComb — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:31:24 +0000

Hi,

My name is Christiaan McComb. I am a lecturer from Newcastle University in Australia. I was interested to see your course, which is developed from the text above. I am thinking about developing a “coaching” course based on a text from a local publisher. The course would be a private one, and not associated with my University in anyway.

I was interested to know if you came across any Intellectual Property/Copyright issues when developing your course? Did you have to get permission from the publisher first? Any advice would be helpful.

Regards
Christiaan

By: Coim Janakiraman

Coim Janakiraman — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:05:46 +0000

A letter sent on February 23, 2008 to Globe & Mail when Asset Based Commercial Paper crisis.
Your article on the use of spreadsheets and risk models (Miscalculating the Risks-February 23, 2008) argues hedge funds and banks can go wrong while that
old-fashioned wisdom of contrarians reveals can profit, When dealing with complex structure scenarios about the financial markets, stating that
“there were no models that accurately predict,” I would like to clarify
the purpose and accuracy of early systems thinking approach that provide
a range of alternative outcomes.

The advance estimate of systems thinking provides a quick reading on wisdom
and experience on complex problem solving. According to, the early best way to apply,
systems thinking for insight into business problems “ it’s not just what you know
that counts, it’s how you think.” The banks and hedge fund modellers use a
well-established process that incorporates more complete and accurate data
as they become available. However, they typically tell financial institutions
possible outcomes to see what happens.

All risk and correlation models face a trade-off between complexity
and estimates of the losses. Applied systems thinking figures a striking
balance for insights to strike a balance to understand the problem and give you insights.

Coim Janakiraman

By: Oliver Pospisil

Oliver Pospisil — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:50:50 +0000

Hi Joanne,

Wonderful recommendation and a pleasure to get a very good reason to reflect the basis of our thinking.

Best wishes,

Oliver